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Great-Grandmother Will Fight Pa. Voter ID Law

Joyce Block, 90, was part of the lawsuit against Pennsylvania’s Voter ID law and said she isn’t giving up, even after a state court upheld the law.

A Doylestown great-grandmother involved in the lawsuit against Pennsylvania’s Voter ID law said she is not giving up, despite a .

Joyce Block said she was disgusted by the state court’s upholding of the law which requires Pennsylvania voters to show an approved identification card before they can vote.

“This is disgraceful. They disenfranchise so many people, and I’m just thoroughly disgusted,” Block said Wednesday morning. “I’m glad we’re going to appeal it. It isn’t over yet.”

Block, who is 90, tried to get an identification card from the PennDOT office in Dublin, Bucks County, but was denied.

Her birth certificate and Social Security card are in her maiden name, Joyce Lucille Altman, but her Medicare card and current utility bills are in her married name, Block.

“He couldn’t understand why I had a different name,” Block said of the PennDOT employee who refused her. “I told him it was because when I was born, I didn’t know I was going to marry a Block.”

Block said she couldn’t prove her marriage because her marriage certificate is in Hebrew and

She eventually got her ID, with the help of her grandson-in-law, Det Ansinn, who called on state Sen. Chuck McIlhinney to intervene.

But she joined the American Civil Liberties Union lawsuit against the law because she knows not everyone would have the connections or the wherewithal to ask a state senator for help voting.

“I was still incensed. I’m worried about the people who live in Philadelphia who weren’t given birth certificates,” Block said. “Years ago, black people were treated like non people, and not given birth certificates. What are they going to do?”

While the court fight continues, others, like Block’s granddaughter’s husband, said efforts must ramp up to educate voters about what they will need to be able to vote on Election Day.

, a Democrat and president of Doylestown Borough Council, said local groups have started trying to reach voters, but said county government should be doing more to reach voters.

“Various local groups have stepped up to the plate, trying to do their best, seeing this is a problem, stepping in and filling the void where government hasn’t really fulfilled its role,” he said.

“Educating people is going to be very important,” Ansinn concluded. “We’re going to have to fight very hard to protect a citizen’s right to vote.”

Rich August 16, 2012 at 10:45 am
Yawn...
John August 16, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Once again the very few want to supercede what protects the majority. I concur with Rich; if this woman wasnt 90, this wouldnt be a story. More importantly, if people would be honest, we wouldnt need checks and balances, and we could continue to live in an America where trust has been lost. For people to exist in this country, it remains mindboggling how so many (actually very few) do not have the basic documentation to get cable, much less anything else like a credit card. We find people who dont have documentation to vote, yet somehow they have the capacity to travel abroad, buy things with credit, get essentials to live in this ever-growing technology world.....but cannot come up with a single for of documentation to vote. Sorry, just not buying that there are thousands of legal citizens in this country with such a problem....and if there are, how many of them are benefitting from a Federal service?
Pan Dora August 16, 2012 at 01:31 pm
Only those who want to CHEAT are against showing ID before voting. Only liars and cheats would be against proving one's ID at the polls. Obama and most democrats fit the bill perfectly.
Amend August 16, 2012 at 01:33 pm
A better question would be where is the evidence of voter fraud that warrants the state limiting the rights of its citizens? The lack of empathy and rightous indignation by those who support this legislation comes off as particularly callous and smacks of bias. Who cares about the rights of a 90 year old woman? She's probably a minority living on public assistance anyway, right? Why should her voice matter anyway?
freeandequalpa August 16, 2012 at 02:09 pm
For anyone interested in a detailed summary of the Court's opinion:
http://freeandequalpa.wordpress.com/2012/08/15/petitioners-request-to-enjoin-enforcement-of-photo-id-law-denied/
Mary Ann Vought August 16, 2012 at 02:23 pm
If Ms. Altman/Block's Social Security is listed in her maiden name, how in the world can she cash her Social Security check?
Reed August 16, 2012 at 02:54 pm
Many of those Black Americans in Philadelphia were dead before the 2008 Elections but some how managed to vote in that election.
Amend August 16, 2012 at 03:30 pm
@Reed- please site specific incidences to quantify your statement. Also, it sounds rather racist of you to use the phrase "many of those Black Americans". Bigots makes Jesus cry. Just sayin'.
slyfox August 16, 2012 at 04:02 pm
Really? Very informative post. Thanks for your input.
Eileen Dunn August 16, 2012 at 05:03 pm
This woman isn't black, so why are we off on a racial taunt? Seems like this is ok as long as it is not happening to me!! Yes everyone has the right to vote legally, but how come now when the Republicans are fighting a loosing battle does this become an issue. My own dead mother never drove, no license, this same situation would have happened to her. Yes she did collect SS# with her maiden name on her birth certificate! Yes she did have credit cards, she did travel and she wasn't on food stamps, but she wouldn't have been able to vote. This country is on a slippery slope since certain people can't get their own way. YOU may be next!!
Elsa August 16, 2012 at 05:18 pm
Oh my. It is not hard to prove who you are if you are who you say you are. We are an instant gratification society and we do not have patience to trouble shoot items that present a challenge. It is really not that complicated. Once you have one it will open a multitude of doors and opportunities!
Gramma24 August 16, 2012 at 05:43 pm
No record of the dead voting. Committee of 70 handled that after the last Rizzo run (he who, like the judge ruling on this was a Democrat and switched parties). He's been dead over 20 years now. But then again, I can see how the 'powers that be' have a problem with the 'real live' black folks voting. Bigot.
Mom of DnNnD August 16, 2012 at 05:55 pm
What were the checks and balances in place that would detect voter fraud? How has it been assessed in the past? How can you have evidence of voter fraud when anybody could vote and there wasn't a way to confirm they were who they said they were?
Mom of DnNnD August 16, 2012 at 05:57 pm
@ Eileen. In the article, Mrs. Block mentioned the poor black folks in Philadelphia...she brought up the race issue.
Frightwingslayer August 16, 2012 at 05:58 pm
Pan Dora,
You are such a moron..The only one cheating here are the Republicans. The state itself said there was no fraud. A top Republicansn official was on video stating that it would help Romney win the state..Stop watching Fox noise and take your freaking blinders off..Geez!!
Amend August 16, 2012 at 07:01 pm
The issue isn't how easy some think it may be or should be to acquire the proper ID. The issue is wether or not this legislation is an act of voter suppression based on a bogus concern. If it is indeed not motivated by a desired political outcome, and there is no emminent threat of mass voter fraud, then there is no need to rush the legislation thru.
John August 16, 2012 at 08:12 pm
Not to spawn any further debate, but a new opportunity was placed by the judge where people could get an ID - "the Commonwealth announced that it will make available through PennDOT a brand new photo ID card — good only for voting — for those who, despite their best efforts, are unable to obtain a birth certificate (the “DOS ID”). Voters eligible for the DOS ID could obtain one by providing their social security number, birth date, and two proofs of residence. Judge Simpson concluded that these efforts by the Commonwealth made it unlikely that any voters would be harmed by the Photo ID Law:" I dont see how attaining such information is all that challenging......I needed more information to buy a cell phone! Let's all stop playing victim, folllow the law and vote! May the best person win. Period.
John August 16, 2012 at 08:19 pm
Voter suppression? I have to then assume your point is that only those in a specific political party are being suppressed, or there wouldnt be an arguement? Correct? The fact that the last few elections have been so close, it wouldnt suggest mass voter fraud, only any voter fraud. Is it OK in your mind to allow just 1 terrorist on your airplane? Not the other 20 who get stopped in the security process? Unfortunately, as in travel, if there are no restrictions, a select few will do what the vast majority would never consider.
Amend August 16, 2012 at 11:44 pm
@John- you could make that assumption, but you wouldn't be correct. In my mind, anyone who has to get the proper ID is being suppressed. The other side of the notion of suppression is the intent of those creating the legislation. I find it hard to believe that those rushing this legislation thru with almost no evidence of merit are truly concerned about voter fraud. In that sense, it seems as tho one party is hoping to work the system to affect the outcome to be in it's favor; which is in a sense its own form of voter fraud. That's my contentions. Otherwise, there's no need to rush this legislation prior to the presidential election. You're comparison to terrorist getting on a plane is extreme. Using that logic, trying to scare the crap out of everyone into thinking someone on the plane may be a terrorist when there is no evidence to support that claim is itself a form of terrorism. There's no evidence to support this legislation, and as such, it should be highly scrutinized as to why it's being crammed down the electorates throat.
Amend August 16, 2012 at 11:50 pm
@John- trying to marginalize those affected by this legislation doesn't strengthen the arguement over it's necessity or it's intent. That's the bigger issue in my mind; it's necessity and intent.
QED August 17, 2012 at 01:37 am
Until the voter ID law was enacted I did not realize that only Democrats lack id cards and commit voter fraud. The ID debate is fascinating.
Rich August 17, 2012 at 09:17 am
Men marched for weeks without shoes, feet in rags and bleeding with Washington to have the right to vote. And someone cannot stand in line awhile to get an ID / register to vote? Our troops marched for hundreds of miles sweating with malaria, wounds and dysentery in the Civil War to protect the right to vote. But someone cannot ride to the ID center?. Men and women captured as prisoners of war have suffered in torture and made to stand for hours in the German snow or blazing Pacific sun - but someone cannot wait awhile in line to get a valid ID? Factory workers stood for 8- 12 hours every day for years to help our troops win the wars of freedom, but people think it is inconvenient and a real sacrifice of their time and muscles to have to stand awhile or sit in line to get a valid photo ID so their vote is countered properly. No more excuses of loss of time, or wear on the feet please. A tiny sacrifice of time and energy please to preserve the integrity of the vote after so many have sacrificed so much for your rights to have it count. If you are sick, there is an absentee ballot still available. But if you are able - go to wait a liitle while in line and get a photo ID and join all those who waited and protected our freedoms. While waiting remind others of all the time people stood, marched, suffered and spent in lines for this right to vote. Tough he little wait out.
Pan Dora August 17, 2012 at 01:30 pm
How about Acorn's voter fraud during the 2008 election? In one case a man confessed to having eighty (80) registrations. Also, not mentioning all the dead people and illegals who voted for the ?? in the whitehouse.
rolex sub August 17, 2012 at 02:39 pm
@ Reed. Link? Proof? How many people are "many"?
"A Pennsylvania law that would turn away voters who don't have a valid photo ID would disproportionately suppress voting in Philadelphia's minority neighborhoods, according to a new study." link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/07/pennsylvania-voter-id-philadelphia-blacks-latinos_n_1752480.html
Just Sick and Tired August 17, 2012 at 03:17 pm
Rush? People have wanted to have better voter ID and less fraud for at least 50 years. My grandfather used to talk about it in the 1950s. Finally someone does something about it and people act like there isn't a problem and it hasn't been debated. Perhaps if voter ID was required in Florida a few years back we would know who created all those dimpled chads or perhaps the dead people voting in Philadelohia and Chicago wouldn't have taken the bus from the cemetery to voting booth. The people that don't want voter ID just want the status quo, they want to be able to cheat with impunity.
freeandequalpa August 22, 2012 at 10:39 pm
@Phillyboy writes: "In the last Presidential election One Philadelphia district final turnout came in at 113% "
Not true. Here is the turn-out data from the 2008 election: http://www.seventy.org/Downloads/Election_Returns_&_Data/2008_General/November_2008_Turnout_by_Division_Map.pdf Not a single precinct anywhere in the city had close to 100% turnout, let alone turn-out in excess of 100%.
John August 31, 2012 at 03:33 pm
@Amend....."Crammed down the electorates throats?"....from a person's party who said "You have to pass the 2000+ page healthcare law before you can read and understand it"......Crammed, REALLY? Now who is being niaive? I think my terrorist threat is right on, not extreme. If you got on a SEPTA bus and it crashed and you found out the driver had never had a license, would you be incensed? Wouldnt you EXPECT SEPTA to screen its drivers before they drive a bus. WHat true alienation are we actually discussing here? I assume you dont want people who receive food stamps, unemployment or any other federal support to prove they are citizens, correct. What a damn infringement! The fact is if you want to vote in this country, prove you are a citizen....thats all.....unless you can show me data that every person in this country is one, and with the leadership we presently have, bending the Constitution to allow outsiders in, requiring ID seems a reasonable act to follow.
John August 31, 2012 at 03:38 pm
@Amend....I agree with your point, however, imagine if there wasnt an "intent"? What if the common person recognized we have considerably more crime, more illegal acts being done in this country by illegals than ever before, we are simply being precautious, taking a proactive defense where voter fraud could not be a concern? Its not political, as it is not infringing upon any specific group's rights. It will equally affect every American. I am willing to accept that responsibility, while you choose to call it an infringement. We can agree to disagree!

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