"How much one is willing to go against popular opinion to save a life" -- This is where you are wrong. Popular opinion is for abortions. Religious teachings should not be used to run our government. Abortions are the law, and any president's job is to uphold the law. You certainly have the right to not get an abortion, and because of your view, you should exercise that stance.

I am surprised though that in this day and age you would vote based on that one single issue. Particularly because the party who is supposedly "pro-life" ends that support at birth, if the parents are poor.

Those are your feelings and you are entitled to them. However, each person has their own unique perspective on this issue and is also entitled to their opinion. Therefore, government should stay out of these very personal choices. They must be left between a woman and her doctor. It is also extremely presumptious to say that women will "self medicate" for the rest of their lives because they had an abortion?! Plenty of women who make this choice feel it is the best decision for them and will recover both physicall and emotionally just fine. Your statement is a huge generalization. Overall, government has no place in a woman's body!

The abortion issue lost credibility the moment it moved from a one of teaching to one of demanding. Teaching about why abortion is not a good choice is not the same as demanding that abortion be accepted as a poor choice, and then criminalized with laws and force.
Discourse is compromised when legality demands what the people are not ready (or perhaps unable circumstantially) to accept. When people choose to not have a abortion, then we know that teaching has had an effect.
It is the avoidance of teaching that demands abortion be outlawed w force. Teaching takes more courage, insight and care than demanding laws be enforced. Gentle persuasion would have already had better effect - judgment, and most insufferable the presumption that we know what others carry everyday, when in reality we could not live 5 minutes of other's lives.

People will stop choosing an abortion if they have learned why it is a poor choice. Even then, it is w broken hearts that some seek an abortion.
They have lost their homes, their jobs, their dignity, or they already work three jobs just to feed the children already in their care. How dare anybody speak for them
esp. those living lives of ease and luxury, many at the expense of those they have underhandedly robbed, not just of their hard-earned money and their homes, but of their dignity and sense of self-worth.

We step aside when the poor walk by. We do not judge or make demands.
Start teaching, but stop demanding.

It always amazes me how Republicans, Tea Partiers and others on the right scream about smaller government and the need for less government intervention until it comes to a women's right to choose, marriage equality and other matters of personal choice.

When it's convenient to their cause those on the right promote government restriction and intervention to the highest degree. Honestly, have you ever met anyone who is actually pro-abortion? I never have. Pro-choice, yes, but never pro-abortion.

Yes I have met pro abortionists...not pro life ...pro abortionist. And we will not apologize to anyone because we have seen the deaths of 40 million babies, and we will end it.

You know that to ask any child if he or she thinks it is ok for a mommy to "fund the killing of thousands upon thousands of men, women, and children so she doesn't have to pay $10 a gallon for her SUV" ...they would be horrified!! So, yeah, could vote for more war in the Middle East and keep pretending to be 'pro-life,' but it's pretty vague when life actually begins, and pretty clear when it ends. If you are truly interested in contemplating the issue, which seems optimistic given the tone of your post, here's a really great essay about it from a scientific and philosophical standpoint:

http://2think.org/abortion.shtml

You are very uninformed. Please read some unbiased sources. Obama has done very well with foreign policy as president. That's one of his shining areas. This Libya thing should NOT be getting politicized. Imagine if the Democrats had politicized 9/11/2001? Maybe it's Bush's fault that there wasn't enough security at the World Trade Centers... (sarcasm in case you missed it)

Jordan.... are you an idiot? Or just pretending to be one? How is bringing up the fact that the President and all his minions lied for TWO WEEKS about Libya, politicizing it?

As to 9/11, BUSH NEVER LIED ABOUT WHO DID IT.... moron.

You don't want it politicized because it shows what a bunch of lying dogs the Obumma administration is.

Bush's fault? If it was anybodies fault, it was Clinton, who had been President for 8 years before 9/11. Moron

PEOPLE DIED....OBAMA LIED.

You are missing the facts.

I guess Reagan did that too then: http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/reaganmeetstalibanwhitehouse.jpg

louis kootsares - Let's start with your "apologizing" - You are promoting a completely false claim that has been fact checked over and over again.

As for your inclusion of the word "table clothed" in your description of terrorists, you have grouped all innocent and decent people who happen to wear the clothing that you choose to describe ignorantly as terrorists.

Clearly, you have learned nothing from history and how human beings have been dehumanized by putting them into groups and using negative language to describe ALL that they have identified for that select grouping.

"good statement" in the Morning Call - No, just one that validates ignorance of details and facts and makes you feel good about the repeating and promoting false information, that is more often than not posted with hateful vitriol.

Under Obama.... record number of poor.

Under Obama... record number of people LEAVE the workforce (lowest participation rate in 70 years)

Under Obama.... record food stamps

Under Obama... record number file for Social Security Unemployement

Under Obama.... record deficit spending for a four year term (equal to Bushes 8 years)

Under Obama... slowest recovery from a recession EVER... by YEARS....

Under Obama..... 15% unemployment if you really count it

Under Obama.... Record black unemployment

If you support him, you're just stupid.

@Crestor

Nice try. So all of what you list is Obama's fault? None of the Bush era policies have any impact at all?

You live in a dream world.

After spitting up right wing propoganda you have nerve calling anyone else stupid.

freaking idiots

Lizz, I agree. I heard him interviewed recently and he has a lot of good ideas. He certainly would bring up issues both candidates and both parties are ignoring.

The real mystery, Lizz, is why haven't good lawyers and a good judge stepped up, and passed a just law that it is unlawful to keep viable third party candidates like Gary Johnson from nationally televised debates? How can we have a country full of lawyers, probably more lawyers live here than any country in the world, and not one can see getting a law passed for real justice in our Presidential debates? That is the real mystery. Where are the good lawyers, and one good judge?

Lizz and Nick - have you read this article about Gary Johnson? It's one of the best things that I have ever read about anyone running for the Presidency.
Gary Johnson - The Authenticity of Awkwardness

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/09/gary-johnson

Maybe in the next four years some of those lawyers will help us break this awful two-party system. Now I just need to hope that whoever gets elected doesn't screw us over more....which I see happening either way.

Those lawyers, Lizz, don't have four more years to get themselves together. They have today. Of course, they did have years and weeks and days and hours they already threw away. TG we have another, more interesting FREE & EQUAL debate tomorrow night with the KING LARRY officiating. Too bad we don't live in Chicago!

http://freeandequal.org/

Well I saw him on RedEye, and he should not be allowed to participate. He does not add to the conversation. I love libertarian ideals. However the foreign policy, head in the sand policy is dangerous.

Congratulations on being wildy anti American Bill. Calling the commander and chief a communist is bordering on treason, especially without any facts to back it up.

Keep on listeing to Fox and Rush.

Please give evidence (links to credible sources) to back up your claims. I know that you cannot, so you are just ignorant. Please do not vote.

Chavez is a socialist. He says he would vote for Obama. Of course. Also, Obama has the support of Castro's relatives and Putin. All the socialists and commies see a kindred spirit in Obama. Jordan.... enough with your credible facts, don't vote stupidity. Of course Obama is a socialist. Ever read about his early years? Who he associated with? Ever read about Holder's early years? Are you an unemployed union dufus, or a teacher?

Bill, it would be interesting to check back in & see how many of your possessions and how much of your family were actually taken away by Obama in his second term. It will be a big fat zero.

Please give evidence (links to credible sources) to back up your claims. I know that you cannot, so you are just ignorant. Please do not vote.

Obama is not a scum bag. He is a socialist douche. Jordan, I am sure you only view Rachel Maddow and Chris "Tingles the drunk" Matthews credible sources.

Thank you! Those facts get in the way of them "justifying" their hate though!

The "fact" is he's up 5%... ahahahahaahaha. Ya, like you know the "fact". Dimwit.

Illuminati - yours is the most accurate and true comment on the subject in all of blogdom.

Jordan - Obama has failed us in the foreign policy department. Peace through strength (along with Reagan's incredible Star Wars bluff) ended the Cold War which lead to the dissolution of the Soviet Union. That is one example of leadership. Nixon opening up a good relationship with China who was isolationist - another.

President Obama's projection of weakness to our enemies, his inaction, his feeble attempts at making friends with dictators (as though the strength of his own personality which won him the highest office will win over these bad guys), and now this - running around bragging "Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive, and Al Qaeda is on the run." Do you not realize Jordan that his Administrations actions are responsible for the murder of Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, both former Navy SEALs working under the State Department, killed alongside U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and information management officer Sean Smith? (not Chris Stevens and 3 others as Obama and the media like to say)

And that he and his entire staff lied about this for weeks? Great foreign policy, you say.

"Do you not realize Jordan that his Administrations actions are responsible for the murder of Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, both former Navy SEALs working under the State Department, killed alongside U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and information management officer Sean Smith? "

Jack you continue to be a complete coward. Answer the question - did you vote for Bush in 2004? After he allowed (using your logic) 3000 Americans to be murdered in NYC on 9/11/2001?

How can you justify your hypocrisy? We know Bush had significant intelligence information telling him attacks where coming. Why was his doing nothing ok with you but now Obama's failure to prevent 4 Americans from being murdered in Libya uinnacceptable.

There is only 1 reality Jack, and you are not living in it.

Admit that you hate America. You hate having an African American President. You hate it's diversty of race and religion. Just come out and say it and stop hiding behind right wing propoganda.

you were doing so well, until the last line. I like Jesse Ventura, the two front running shills should wear nascar suits showing the names of the banksters and corporations that own them.

Racist much? "all the scum in Phila has him up" . What are you really saying Crestor?

That's actually correct. The great thing about freedom of speech is that it makes it very easy to spot which people are sensible & educated and which ones are the idiots.

Freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to say whatever you want without consequence. Grow up. Slandering the President is unpatriotic and undermining to American progress. Working against American progress is treason.

My point is you can't use what happened in Benghazi to condemn Obama if you voted for Bush in 2004. You can't have 2 different sets of rules - 2 different versions of history.

If what happened in Libya makes Obama unfit for office in your eyes, then you can not justify a vote for Bush in 2004. Bush's failures where far more dire than Obama's in terms of security.

There is only one reality.

And to further answe you "Illuminati", the level of irrational disrespect shown towards this President has it's roots in racism. White Republicans feel it is ok to demeen the President becuase they think they have white privelage.

Criticizing his policies in a rational and mature manner is fine. Attacking the man on such a personal level reveals something much more.

Nick, you a stupid putz. All you have left is your "racist" charge. Obama is an EPIC FAILURE, socialist, Alinski trained radical, who hates rich white people. The fact that you have to bring up racism just shows you KNOW what a TOTAL FAILURE Obama is.

All you have left is talking about Bush, you moron.

Illum.... isn't it amazing the racist crap. If Obama was white, I'd still hate him. He's a radical socialist nut case. That's why I hate him. I called Clinton worse, especially after the Lewinsky tragedy.

Go Pittsburgh Tribune. Now they have some sense. They must be racists, right Nick the Dolt ??

The Pittsburgh Tribune is owned by Richard Mellon Scaife. He is a billionaire and princinple heir to the Mellon fortune - banking and oil. Scaife is well known for contributing to Conservative organizations, and was one of the founding members of the group that initially pushed for the impeachment of President Clinton.

What a shock his "news" paper would endorse Romney. Throw something credible at us.

@Crestor. Let us know if you want to bring any meaningful content to the conversation. Otherwaise you just name call and cut and paste.

Hey Jack - get back to me on the remaining 748 who lost. One in the face of many more.

Jack, off-shoring jobs to countries that live under tyranny is not what "jobs" and "profits" should be about. Take a course in business ethics, or watch a version of the Christmas Carol. "All that glitters is not gold". ill-gotten gains. There's a good old-fashioned expression we don't hear much anymore.

Why would a business only have one purpose? Creating good jobs and being profitable are not mutually exclusive.

Profit has always been, is now , and will always be the number one object and purpose of business any one that believes otherwise lives in a dream world that will never be reality.

Ah, Sharpie, no answers from you, just obfuscation. Unfortunately there is the real world, then a myriad of utopias and arcadias. If you draw a paycheck from a real-world business, perhaps you should consider following your own advice and take a few business courses; better yet, start a small business, jump into the pit, and see how long you last with that mindset. "Wish in one hand, crap in the other: see which fills up faster."

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman," Clinton said.

Robert, Technically, this is true. Just as technically, Barack Obama should run screaming with his hair on fire from this statistic. There’s a reason for that: Clinton is measuring presidential tenure purely from inauguration to inauguration. For example, he’s taking jobs numbers from January 1981 to January 1985 to measure Reagan’s first term. Only one problem with this: by this standard, Barack Obama is the second-worst private jobs creator of the last half-century (George W. Bush is first, but still created far more net jobs than Obama overall, putting Obama dead last if you include state and federal jobs in the statistic). Which is why our unemployment rate is terrible.

I will give him this: Bill Clinton is the most skilled liar of my lifetime. Incomparable.

Jack
Are you going to remind us that FDR had an extra marital affair too????? Romney got his but kicked last night and changing the subject won't change the facts.